Sparky's Eschaton Plugins 4.1 (made for Eschaton 0.8.1.1)

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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Mgalekgolo » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:53 pm

i was using my bloodgulch with a c10 exteriorA sbsp
and i waited 10 minutes for it to load(which it didn't). i dont really mind tho
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Sparky » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:08 pm

10 minutes is a bit much :? I would have only waited a minute at most, wow you were patient!

It works with Bloodgulch. I did not test it on other sbsp tags, but thanks for this information! It seems I will need to revise these at least for another version release before 4.0, which may actually never come, unless I can get my hands on an old version of RealStudio.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Modzy » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:31 pm

Sparky wrote:unless I can get my hands on an old version of RealStudio.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Sparky » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:22 pm

I know what you mean. :roll: :lol: </sarcasm>

Alt wrote Eschaton in RealBasic, and he wrote it with version 2007r3 (I think it's r3?) of RealStudio, and since RealStudio has the most ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous license agreement EVER and they make useless any application made with the demo version, my hands are tied with updating Eschaton unless I can use a licensed copy of the version Alt has. Their updates burn compatibility bridges also, which is just FINE AND DANDY for them, I suppose.

Alternatively, I can just write the code and send it to Alt for him to compile and release, but maybe I just don't know enough about the programming language to do this without any mistakes.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Modzy » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:51 am

Just have Altie or I make the changes.

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Post by Sparky » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:45 pm

Alt and I have been discussing this for a while, but would you have time to make the few changes, please?

I would like to incorporate two new attribute fields: "meas" for "measurement units" and "info" for "information" (this would be like Conure's "helptag"). These two attributes for each field in the plugins would display in the Eschaton window:

The "name" is in red.
The "meas" is in purple.
The "info" is in green.

Title is centered at top (red).
Description comes just below title or within the large blank area below the entry fields (green).
Measurement units, "meas", can fit within the space to the right of the value field (purple).

I will provide leave the headings dot-separated, which should display best using the newer layout style Alt made. The new attribute "meas" has the longest value - if I remember correctly - of "world units per second squared". The new attribute "info" - if I include only the information that I provided so far in parentheses - should fit nicely in that huge unused area to the bottom right. The huge description blocks I included as pictures will probably need to remain as reference pictures for these Eschaton plugins. I don't think it would be nice to type them up and have them embedded into the application.

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Would you please do this for me, so I can release a nice format revision with 4.0 (along with any fixes since 3.0)?
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Modzy » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:41 pm

I'll have a look either tomorrow or Monday. I'll know which day is free in the morning.

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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Sparky » Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:07 am

Also, the newer layout that Alt made needs to expand with the window size. This is a simple thing to do, check the appropriate flags for the area. I suppose it would also be nice for the field names and boxes to expand.

Thank you for your work!

EDIT: The following is a transcript of our discussion in Skype.

http://www.halodemomods.com/sparkys_sec ... n_083.html

I'll update this periodically while we discuss.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Modzy » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:44 am

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Plugin format has been updated to use the following new attributes:

•note: note is the text that displays under a value in floats, ints, etc. You'll see it used to display things like "world units" or "seconds."
•info: gives you specifics on the values you're editing.
•info_img: you can add a picture to the images folder, and reference it here to display in an info window.

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<float name="Defensive.Hide Shield Fraction" note="0 - 1 only" info="elites and jackals only seek cover when their shields are below this level" info_img="actr Defensive.png" offset="0x2DC" visible="true"/>
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Mota-Lev » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:47 am

^Nice. although I personally don't like the little Navigation bar. Just the look or it.. its very seedy.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Modzy » Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:53 am

Mota-Lev wrote:^Nice. although I personally don't like the little Navigation bar. Just the look or it.. its very seedy.
Was just playing around with the UI, not final.

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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Mgalekgolo » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:03 am

looks pretty cool modzy.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by kiddten » Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:55 pm

I'd much prefer that info window embedded into the main window, where applicable. but I don't know much about the apple design standards, so It probably goes against it.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by TaxiService » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:27 pm

^ but then the text will be slaved to the window size. <_< like, you gotta have space for both the text and the meta editor stuff.
...this update is made exactly for this purpose. since the text was unreadable in the meta editor, modzy made a window for it.
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Re: Sparky's Eschaton Plugins EPIC 3.0 VERSION RELEASE!!!

Post by Sparky » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:00 am

I think it would be neat as a palette window off to the side that can be toggled from the Window menu. It would need to update when an item in the main window is clicked.
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