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Swordedit

Post by Samuco » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:42 pm

I am hopefully going to release an update to swordedit soon. Post any particular feature requests you have below.

Regarding the BSP editor, if somebody manages to figure out how to compile a collision BSP, let me know and I will implement it. The compiled code to do this exists in tool (comes with HEK). Even making tool work on the mac in a state that swordedit can use it would help.

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Re: Swordedit

Post by 002 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:37 pm

How about the ability to translate objects in an invisible grid so I don't have to worry about one object being slightly out of place, causing me to have to go back and correct 20+ object coordinates in Eschaton?

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Re: Swordedit

Post by TaxiService » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:36 pm

Dude, adding chunks to the scnr. Like, if i want to spawn some machines, swordedit would create a machine palette to spawn it into. Like, it'd be super useful to spawn a lot of stuff properly.
Also adding tags to existing palettes.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by Fonzeh » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:08 pm

I would focus on overall stability.

Although an effect renderer would be nice. For example being able to see the flame emmitter scenery object in Swordedit.

I had to change its mod2 (to a skull) so i would be able to move it around.

Also in the latest starlight I couldnt delete vehicles.

Might just be me.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by Tucker933 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:11 pm

A PC version would be fantastic.

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Re: Swordedit

Post by Sparky » Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:08 pm

The pitch and roll titles in the user interface are switched. Pitch should be Roll and Roll should be Pitch.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by 002 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:39 am

The Yaw textbox is always stuck at 180. Fixxxx.

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Re: Swordedit

Post by nil » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:19 am

Use a VCS like hg or git, open source it, and maintain the code publicly onto github, bitbucket, or google code and I *might* take a look at doing something with the code. A project that was intended to be open by sword, should be kept open, and it should be done so properly. Not using a VSC, even for private purposes, would be insane anyway.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by WaeV » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:44 am

nil wrote:Use a VCS like hg or git, open source it, and maintain the code publicly onto github, bitbucket, or google code and I *might* take a look at doing something with the code. A project that was intended to be open by sword, should be kept open, and it should be done so properly. Not using a VSC, even for private purposes, would be insane anyway.
I strongly agree. I wish Github had been around back when Halo modding was in its heyday.
Tucker933 wrote:A PC version would be fantastic.
We wish, haha. Afaict, it's based on Sparkedit (C++), but adds Mac-specific stuff in Objective-C.

Two prominent options:
Cocotron, a tool that only runs on Macs but lets you cross-compile to Windows.
GnuStep, Objective-C and Cocoa libraries for MinGW on Windows. Can be used to compile from a Mac or a Windows box.

Both would probably require some porting effort, as not everything is implemented perfectly. I expect Cocotron would be an easier success; I plan on gauging portability once I get a Mac VM running.

Example cross compatibility: X11 (Linux), Windows, Mac

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Re: Swordedit

Post by Sparky » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:50 am

I recently and previously tried getting Cocotron to work, both times without success after spending entire days in the attempt.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by Samuco » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:13 am

nil wrote:Use a VCS like hg or git, open source it, and maintain the code publicly onto github, bitbucket, or google code and I *might* take a look at doing something with the code. A project that was intended to be open by sword, should be kept open, and it should be done so properly. Not using a VSC, even for private purposes, would be insane anyway.
Tucker933 wrote:A PC version would be fantastic.
Unlikely.
Lucifer wrote:Although an effect renderer would be nice. For example being able to see the flame emmitter scenery object in Swordedit.
Can you send me a map with a bunch of effects in it? I'll see if I can add a renderer (even it if is just a box).
TaxiService wrote:Dude, adding chunks to the scnr. Like, if i want to spawn some machines, swordedit would create a machine palette to spawn it into. Like, it'd be super useful to spawn a lot of stuff properly. Also adding tags to existing palettes.
Current method is to just duplicate the existing objects. I'll see if I can add some sort of "object palette" where you can drag things into the main window.

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Re: Swordedit

Post by TaxiService » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:10 am

>Current method is to just duplicate the existing objects. I'll see if I can add some sort of "object palette" where you can drag things into the main window.

Eh wait, let me paraphrase. I'm talking about this:
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Basically it's what defines what kinds of scens/machs/lifis/whatevers can spawn. Eschaton calls it X Palette, so i called it that, but there's probably a more correct name for it.

Anyway, like, if there's no mach palette, machines won't act correctly if you spawn them in other ways (say, by swapping a scen with a mach) So, is there a way for Swordedit to add palettes to the scnr?
And also to add items to an existing palette? Sparkedit lets me do that with scens and vehis.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by nil » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:15 am

@Samuco: you can privately PM me a crash report although it is a beta after all. I'm a mac dev member so i have access to it as well, I might install it.. Also why the heck is properly open sourcing a project that was already open sourced unlikely?! Unfortunately for you, he did specfiy GPL (on google code) when releasing his code. Anyway, if you'd like to talk, send me a PM.
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Re: Swordedit

Post by WaeV » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:13 am

Samuco wrote:
nil wrote:Use a VCS like hg or git
Unlikely.
Personally I can't stand developing without version control. This is what happens to my source files without VCS: .````:)
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Re: Swordedit

Post by Samuco » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:26 pm

nil wrote:@Samuco: you can privately PM me a crash report although it is a beta after all. I'm a mac dev member so i have access to it as well, I might install it.. Also why the heck is properly open sourcing a project that was already open sourced unlikely?! Unfortunately for you, he did specfiy GPL when releasing his code. Anyway, if you'd like to talk, send me a PM.
It just hangs and takes up 400% cpu rather than crashing. The current version of starlight has new code that I would refer remained private hence why I did not release the code. If this is going to be an issue, then I am not going to add peoples change requests as it eats into my own time and then can't be released anyway.


TaxiService wrote:>Current method is to just duplicate the existing objects. I'll see if I can add some sort of "object palette" where you can drag things into the main window.

Eh wait, let me paraphrase. I'm talking about this:
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Basically it's what defines what kinds of scens/machs/lifis/whatevers can spawn. Eschaton calls it X Palette, so i called it that, but there's probably a more correct name for it.

Anyway, like, if there's no mach palette, machines won't act correctly if you spawn them in other ways (say, by swapping a scen with a mach) So, is there a way for Swordedit to add palettes to the scnr?
And also to add items to an existing palette? Sparkedit lets me do that with scens and vehis.
Should be possible.
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Samuco wrote:
nil wrote:Use a VCS like hg or git
Unlikely.
Personally I can't stand developing without version control. This is what happens to my source files without VCS: .````:)
I find version control is only useful when developing with others.

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