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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Moxus » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:26 pm

Smythe wrote:enormous lengths to get their midget porn.
LOL! But true.

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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Sparky » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:18 am

Smythe wrote:Please don't post videos and then nothing in text, it just shows you have no understanding of it.

This is a dangerous move, there are a lot of psychos on the internet who would go to enormous lengths to get their midget porn.
Who then will of course be disappointed because the videos Vegerot posted had nothing to do with sleaze bag fail.
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Excend » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:06 am

Sparky wrote: Who then will of course be disappointed because the videos Vegerot posted had nothing to do with sleaze bag fail.
Wait... what?
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Sparky » Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:46 am

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARE VERY DEEP AND INTENSE WORDS. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.

Maybe I should preface this by saying that what I say comes from my heart. But I ask you, which of you does not speak from his heart? For "out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks." Now let's consider censorship on the other hand, which seeks to oppress free speech. What it's really doing is trying to subtly brainwash you and oppress your heart. It tries to control you as if it made you and as if you were its machine. To such oppression, I say what Duke Nuke'em said, "Let God sort 'em out!"

Now folks, I realize I can be a little slow at times to assume the worst about other people, but seriously. Which "scheduled server maintenance" do you think will contain "spam blocker" features that will be used by the government to usurp freedom of speech, integrity of information, and justice for all nations? Which spam blocker will be paid off by the government to make their application report to "big brother" what people are saying? And don't be naive by thinking that this is not a key priority for "government intelligence agencies" already. Look at cell phone companies which must be required to register their encryption algorithms with the US Government before implementing them "for reasons of national security", as if every person on the face of this planet were a big retarded blob of fear. Paranoia is on the heart of the government officials (I don't know what they're feeding these people, seriously...), not on the hearts of the people who had judged that these people were worth electing for whatever reason. There is no imminent threat to your life that will end it prematurely besides sin. Look at what one of the presidents said, "there is nothing to fear but fear itself." Now you tell me that being afraid is going to make you stop being afraid, or that by focusing on fear you will actually ignoring fear. What kind of paranoid shit talk is that? What do you take us for, ignorant idiots? If you are afraid of fear itself, then you are feeding fear by being afraid of something. What a blind person you are! The only way to eliminate fear from your life is to focus on God, who said, "let not your heart be troubled, and do not be afraid, for I am with you always until the very end of the age of mankind," and "be still, and know that I am God."

Let me tell you something, friends, because this must be done as a testimony to everyone. When you walk into a casino, you see the signs of this age, "the age of the carnival" (a coinage not my own). When you turn on the TV, you see it also. When you speak to some people, you smell it reeking on them, because they either are lost in dissipations (things that distract them from God) or they have chosen to act like pagans who see nothing but the nose in front of their face. SO I TELL YOU, do what was commanded in Deuteronomy chapter 6. Write the rules and words of God on their door posts as a testimony to all affected by the stench of sin in that area. On casino doorposts, I challenge you to inscribe "The Lord is my Shepherd, I shall not want." and "Worship the Lord your God and serve him only." and "You cannot serve both God and Money." Let these words of True Life be inscribed upon their door frames as a testimony to them, as a testimony against evil which uses greed, jealousy, lust, envy, falsehood, deception, paranoia, and all other things rooted in falsehood and wickedness so that it might destroy God's creation; and let those who read those words of Life fear the Lord God Almighty who spoke them to all people so that they would have true eternal life and grow and learn with wisdom, righteousness, decency, true justice, mercy and all other good things of the love of God Our Father in heaven.

If you ignore, you are quite literally acting ignorant, by definition of the word. What you need to do is understand with wisdom that only comes from God WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING ALREADY, and then change things for the better, using grace, mercy, and decency, remaining completely innocent through prayer and self-analysis. Talk to people -- "speak softly, but carry a big stick", which is to say that you behave as a righteous man of peace (you will only understand what this means if you already are fully trained as a member of the Kingdom of God which is within you), and you also speak as a man of peace so as to behave according to the infinite love of God, but be a person of action: speak, but only with your heart set on action. The action must be rooted in fulfilling God's commands: love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.

Now, a quick look at the government, who is saying that you should "be a good citizen" and "report any suspicious activity to law enforcement officials", thereby saying "don't trust anyone but the government". Now, let me ask you: if you avoid people around you and live in fear that is being instituted by the government (a bookshelf tactic of dictatorship to manipulate people into radical mob rule by trying to brainwash them into evil by using tactics of fear and anger.... a tactic which you will only be immune to if you make it a habit to focus on God with complete trust in God through prayer), then how will you possibly obey God's command to "Love your neighbor as yourself." and all those related laws such as the Ten Commandments and "Do not jeopardize the safety of your neighbor." or even Christ's further explanation, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you, so that you might be sons of your Father in Heaven. (God shows mercy to the ungrateful and the wicked just as he shows mercy to the righteous.)" (http://bible.cc/luke/6-27.htm) ? How can you possibly obey God's words by directly disobeying them? How can you love your neighbor as yourself if you sentence them to persecution or death at the hands of those who call themselves the government? You cannot, and you will be judged according to your own actions. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess at the feet of the Lord Jesus Christ who sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; we will all confess even every careless word we have spoken.

Do not be afraid of evil, because it is already defeated by Jesus Christ. All you have to do is learn from God by learning the Good News of the new covenant of Christ's sacrifice and know God through the words of God found in the Holy Bible. Read, understand, learn, grow, demonstrate. Everything hidden will be disclosed and judged by the Holy God Almighty who created it all. All sins will be made known: all evil deeds will cower under the feet of the Lord God Almighty seated on the throne of heaven, but those who have lived steadfastly according to God's Will might be able to stand before the Son of Man and be welcomed into eternal life. All sins against our Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven, but nobody who sins against the Holy Spirit of God will ever be forgiven, for that is an eternal sin, and those who commit such sins will suffer torment in hell. Those who knew what was right to do and did not do it will be punished with many blows while those who didn't know what was right and did wrong will be punished with few blows. To whom much has been blessed and given, much more will be required, for God's Creation will not return to him empty-handed or without having borne fruit. God's Will is salvation for all those who believe in his only begotten son, Our Lord. God has created, God has borne all our faults and sins, God is with us ALWAYS, God knows everything and is in complete control of everything and everyone because he made everything and everyone, God is all-powerful and the Beginning and the End who created existence (note that although we see existence only as an abstraction, we can still learn from God who created existence; God in his wisdom intended it to be this way, so that we who were created in his image would be able to learn God's commands of righteousness and serve God who alone is good in this age and the next -- if we are worthy in God's sight). It is not for us to know the times and dates that God Almighty has set by his own authority, but only to learn from, love, obey, worship, and serve God alone in utmost priority as first and foremost in the lives he has given us -- to give to God what is God's and justly give to all other people what belongs to them according to the will of the Spirit of God. God's Spirit gives life; the rest is God's Creation which cannot give us life. No amount of eating bread or drinking water will make you live any longer than God lets you live; for there is none greater than God in any way, for God did indeed create all things so nothing could be greater than God, "who is greater than all." All things are possible with God. You should know the power of God and have faith in him therefore.

About faith: if you know something exists, you have knowledge. If you do not know that something exists but believe it exists anyway, then you have faith. Faith must be rooted in some form of knowledge. To have faith without understanding is blind faith and is evidence of manipulation... but evil reeks of its own stench to those who have eyes and ears to perceive it. God is not evil, but God is the only one who is actually really Good. God does not manipulate, but teaches those who are willing to listen to him. You cannot listen to God unless he has enabled you to perceive him first. In order to perceive God who is spirit, you aren't going to use the senses of the flesh (hear, smell, see, taste, feel, etc.) but you will witness God through FAITH in God. Now like I said, Faith must be rooted in some form of knowledge. Who on earth can teach you about the Spirit of God? Nobody. "They will all be taught by God." So you are taught by God and your relationship develops with God -- it is a relationship between you and God alone, it is private, it is sanctified by God's Word which is Truth, and nobody can remove you from God's Hand -- nobody else is involved in your relationship with God besides YOU AND GOD. That is all; there is none other. It's just You and God. That is the relationship; God is standing there wanting to embrace you in warm loving kindness and you will only ever find true happiness in God's embrace, for that is where you will find rest for your soul. And like I said, the only way to God is through understanding God's Words as spoken by Jesus Christ his son who is Our Lord seated at the right hand of God Almighty.
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Excend » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:00 am

Sparky wrote:WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARE VERY DEEP AND INTENSE WORDS. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.
>Good thesis: Censorship is based on paranoia, and paranoia can be reduced by faith (Non-God specific faith is what I agree with here).
>Support: God
>Support :God
>Support: God
>Support: God
>Conclusion: God is good
Sparky, I agree with you in principle, but lately you've been turning debates into focusing way too much on religion.
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Sparky » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:40 am

This really irks me. You need to know that Religion ≠ God. Religion does not equal God. What I'm saying in reply here is simply that discussions of God are not discussions of religion, for those are two completely distinct topics (except for people who don't know the difference between the two, like a colorblind person not knowing the difference between yellow and green).

Religion is an institutionalized practice of studying and worshiping a recognized deity (note the ambiguity here). Now being institutionalized does not automatically falsify something. It is the practice of something by which someone can determine whether or not it is true or false. After all, writing and speaking are forms of action also, and I can judge whether or not ideas are wrong based upon what the person is writing or saying, not based upon whether their words are properly organized into sentences. The government is concerned with organization and having businesses and corporations follow the rules of the land -- the laws that are enforced by the government. You see, a corporation is merely a document stating purpose for specified activities. Then there are money games that must be played, accurate records and asset protection and segregation of tasks... it's all a game based upon specified activities as recording on documents and filed and governed by the auspices of the government.

RELIGIONS AND CORPORATIONS ARE NOT INHERENTLY BAD OR FALSE. THEY ARE ORGANIZATIONS OF PEOPLE COMING TOGETHER TO DO THINGS TOGETHER. IT IS THE NATURE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES WHEREBY ONE CAN JUDGE WHETHER THEY ARE ROOTED IN GOOD OR BAD.

So to use the word "religion" as a condemnation is illogical and does not represent the meaning of the word in any way, shape or form. Otherwise, I retort with, "yes, words use that you organized are also, now shame on you person!"

Now to compare religions with corporations, if they are operating legally (according to the laws through which they were institutionalized), then corporations are subject to the rules of the government, and religions are subject to the rules of God. If these institutions disobey those rules, then they are at fault and are subject to revision or subject to being revoked. But let's not forget what I'm actually talking about, because God is not the same as a group of people. God is above all his creation, and seeing as he created everything, well then A = C and God is above everything. The thoughts of man are not the thoughts of God.

Now to approach the issue of censorship another way, consider the words of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and apply them to the issues we are facing today: ""
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Sparky » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:03 am

Having written all that and stepped away and lived again, it occurred to me what was meant by having the love of God in your heart as being a requirement to learning from God, and therefore also a requirement for living any kind of meaningful life in God's sight. As is written by the apostle Paul in Corinthians, "If I have no love, I am a clanging gong or a crashing cymbal..." basically showing that without the love of God in your heart, you have no heart, and therefore your actions and motivations are heartless to a large extent. You are building your house (your life) upon sand; the house will be destroyed and the sand upon which it was built will be washed away by the storms of life (moments where you feel like your world is coming to an end or where you suffer any other hardships in life -- without a heart set on God, your heart will "be broken" in those situations). You know what it means to be heartbroken and any psychologist will tell you how people act defensively when they feel threatened. Well LOL guess what, that's because they have a life or identity crisis and that which they set their hearts upon (wealth, safety, relationships, prestige, etc.) is the sand upon which they built their house and it just got washed away through the storms of life! None of that shit matters anyway, my friends. Listen to what God said: "Be on your guard against all forms of greed. A man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions." Therefore, in your heart, you sell all your possessions and you give to the poor, and then you have treasure in heaven because that's where your heart is set. THEN you can follow Jesus, because THEN you will be listening. So all those storms of life are WAKE UP CALLS that you need to set your heart and mind and soul with God who made you and who has been patiently waiting to teach you -- but there is a time limit, and nobody besides God knows when their time limit will end. So get started ASAP, because you can die at any age, and nobody besides God the Father knows when the Lord will be returning on the clouds of heaven. That's the last day, and it will take everyone by surprise because it's at an hour they are not aware of. And they will mourn because their lives were built upon sand and all the dust of the world is crumbling away at the judgement by God. You must build your house upon rock. The Word of God which is scripture and Jesus Christ is the only real rock in the storms of life.

But like I said, you cannot have any idea what I'm talking about unless you first have the love of God in your heart. Make every effort to learn how to live in righteousness so that you will become sons of God.
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Vegerot » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:21 am

Sparky, you and a couple of other people on these forums have been my idol for quite some time now. But seriously man, this has got to stop. Some people on this forum do not even believe in the existence of God. While I respect your beliefs, please do go out and proselytize us. Let's just stick to mutual beliefs that we all believe in. Like oooooooo how cute this is!!!! Image

That's it. End of discussion, Sparky. Do not reply.

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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Excend » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:17 pm

Sparky wrote:This really irks me. You need to know that Religion ≠ God. Religion does not equal God.
Saying this is like saying a Rectangle ≠ a Square. In principle this is true, but although a rectangle is not a square, a square is a rectangle. The recognition of God is Christianity, which is a religion. You are talking as if bringing up God brings up no controversy of religion, but the subject of God directly corresponds to religion.
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Smythe » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:32 pm

Sparky, it's a (mostly) free world, and we respect your views, but really nobody here cares enough to read through them.
Put your skills to use and write for a church or something, where people will listen to your words and rally up with you instead of reading them and thinking you're an absolute looney.
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Post by Moxus » Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:53 am

White Knightmare wrote:
Sparky, I agree with you in principle, but lately you've been turning debates into focusing way too much on religion.
I think his point was that he's getting tired of coming into topics and finding that, regardless of what the topic was, there ends up being double-posts about faith in God. It's not to say there's something wrong with faith in God; rather, it's just it isn't always relevant to the discussion of every issue.

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Post by draconic74 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:58 am

The other problem is, it's a forum. We don't (at least, I don't) come here to read essays. I get enough of that in class. The picture of a cat held my attention for longer.

Now that I think about it, that might be a serious problem... Ooooh... Look at the kitty!
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Mota-Lev » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:39 am

The world is coming to an end.. this is the start like I mean shit the Aus government in Queensland legalized gay marriage.. Shits about to get real :/
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Re: Stop internet censorship!

Post by Vegerot » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:49 pm

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