ESCHATON!Cortana wrote:What program are you talking about?
the application forged by the gods!
dont be blaspheme!
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heheh, scientific facts can be broken by other scientific facts!<your post should go here>
There is so much wrong with that statement. Athiesm has little do with science by definition. Science can neither prove nor deny the existence of a diety. Also, science is not at all free from bias or postulation. Newtonian physics for example is merely an approximation but is not truly accurate and the theory of relativity is only true if one assumes the speed of light in vacuum to be constant. The idea that someone can be truly "unbiased" in any sense of the word is laughable. One can acknowledge biases and try to move past them but they are an inevitable part of being human. Blaming religion for any of those events is taking a simplified view of things. The crusades were more related to population pressure and political issues than any thing related to doctrine. It just so happened at the time the most politically powerful figure was a pope. The holocaust wasn't about religion on either side. National Socialism made some pretense to Christianity but was more a socio-political philosophy based on the superiority of the German state and the Arian race. Which is why those events were targeted at the Jewish people (ever hear the term "ethnic Jew"?) along with Gypsies and Homosexuals. Terrorism has nothing to do with religious teachings. It has far more to do with social issues and charismatic individuals who preach a hate that is vieled under the guise of religion. By contrast, the Soviet purges had roughly 3 million victims. Not a bad count for a country that outlawed religion. It's a handy scapegoat, but in the end it's always people not belief systems or institutions that are guilty of such horror. As for scientific progress, I challenge you to name ten important cases in which science was in direct conflict with religion. (For the record, the largest operator of observatories during the middle ages: the church. Who invented the hospital: the medieval Islamic world. In fact, the scientific method is credited to an Arab during the dark ages which weren't so dark in the empire)P!ckoff wrote:I dont think so. I think that that holds true for religions, but not beliefs like atheism. Atheism is backed up by scientific fact, in fact, created by science. Scientific laws cannot be broken, so when they conflict with religion, religion loses. Except that religion has been the only answer to all of life's questions for so long that there is only a select few people who can see that truth in its raw state, without being biased by their religious beliefs. I think that religion worked fine for 2,000+ years, but it has also caused some of the worst occurrences the world has ever seen. Event like the crusades, the Holocaust, the current terrorist threat are all based in religious differences. Since we now can abate our never-ending desire for answers with unbiased, universal discoveries of science while losing the bloodshed, why not ditch religion?
oh no..Altimit01 wrote:@Taxi:
Think of a brain in a jar. It doesn't sense anything, but it constructs an entire universe of imagination. Everything it meets, sees, talks to and interacts with is merely it's own imagination.
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