Pushing the limits of modding to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

[Vegerot]

I'm 25!!!!! I hate that people think that I'm a kid! I guess it's some disease or something! Can the engine handle Halo 2 graphics?

[Vegerot]

BACK ON TOPIC Can the engine handle Halo 2 graphics? And how much money does Havok cost. Havok is the engine used in all the Halo games after Combat Evolved and numerous other games and even some and a lot of famous ones at that!

[Mgalekgolo]

sure we can use halo 2 graphics, it may not look as good though.

[Vegerot]

Well then it isn't Halo 2 graphics! Halo 2 graphics means you have Halo 2 graphics. So if you say it won't have Halo 2 graphics then it won't have it lol!

[Mgalekgolo]

lol, lookie
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3757

[Vegerot]

lol, lookie
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3757

What? It's better, but not Halo 2 level yet. And what about the engine?! Anybody know how to do that?!

[Vegerot]

I think that Macs can handle the graphics of Reach. The newer Macs can definitely handle it! Of course you would have to practically close everything else on your computer to free up more RAM, but that's about it! The graphics isn't the main problem, it's the engine. Reach's engine is very complex and I'm not sure Macs have enough RAM to simulate it! You ever wondered why there is no 360 emulator? It's because of that (and 100 other things, both technical and legal).

You don't know shit about making games do you. THE. HALO. 1. ENGINE. IS. NOT. ABLE. TO. HANDLE. IT.
No matter how good your computer is.

I know! I said that a Mac could handle it! Provided we have a new engine! He said that Macintoshes couldn't handle it. The engine can't but the Mac has the capability of running the graphics!
I'm sorry for asking this because I'm sure this has been asked a million times before. But how do I convert this to demo?

[Amy]

We can't export the engine.

[2310]

The best we can do is to export models & bitmaps to a new engine, I think. I also think that's far more illegal than stealing Full content.

You could rebuild a Halo-inspired game using another engine, but that wouldn't be Halo modding anymore.

[Zanghfei]

^I I luve stealing some legal stuff ;D.

but, still. My computer is to old to breath ;P!
To rid legal stuff.

[Sparky]

I think it is going to take me making a new mod in order to change all your minds about the limitations of the Halo engine. Bungie did not take the engine to its fullest potential with the release of the storyline content.

I don't know about Halo graphics and sounds from other versions, but man... there can still be so much more done with our mods. It's not the limitations of the engine that make things look nice, but the creative use of high-quality content. And since the content thus far has been pretty mediocre, here are some suggestions:


1. Use photorealistic textures.
2. Use professionally-recorded music.
3. Create new or use existing high-quality models and give them Levels of Detail so that they maintain their high quality in the game.
4. Be willing to substitute textures for vertices.
5. Use more detailed atmospheric and weather effects and better sky models and animations in order to improve overall ambience.
6. Use fewer particles, but of a higher quality.
7. Populate levels wisely. For example, if you want to show a spaceship battle high in the sky, and the player never goes up there, then make it a part of the sky animation rather than using millions of vertices at that distance.
8. Use render portals, such as those used when you are inside and outside the bloodgulch base. When you are inside the middle, the outside is not rendered, and when you are outside, the base interior is not rendered. You can easily see this by changing the ground and base shaders to a transparent shader, or by playing a mod like Alien Homeworld.

[Vegerot]

And you guys said it wasn't possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9TzjhVSYH0&hd=1

[TaxiService]

HOLY FUCK DID YOU SEE THAT!? 0_0 FUCK ANNIVERSARY!

So, now you should give the money to CMT, vegerot? (also, you are 26? what the flipping shit?)

[Vegerot]

But it's funny that all of you were saying that it was impossible. But they managed to it.

[kiddten]

Only through open sauce. That will nevereverever get done on mac. Kinda because of open sauce though, but also because we still can't convert CE SP maps.