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by Mac Hacker » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:29 am
TaxiService wrote:Pool wrote: and i bet you don't know anything about hex?
i did not mean to say "i am a Hex god". absolutely not.
i was saying "if you are an hex god you can import stuff using hexedit". that's all.
i can do that in hex so can u if you change everything at each place to match the map its inported from same lines and such
it takes an hour and 5 min to do if you get good at it
but other than that it doesnt make u a hex god anyone can do it
there is an advantange to using hex to PMI no model corections needed
i want to try it with a CE map to see if i can inport it bitmaps and all 0.0 but idk
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by TaxiService » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:34 am
KoRnDoG wrote:why would u import stuff using hex edit. the other apps make it so much easier. and dont say thats nooby because apps are supposedto make things easier. idk why u all frown upon them while hex edit is worshipped like some idol if hexiness.
it's complicated...
tyler777 wrote:i can do that in hex so can u if you change everything at each place to match the map its inported from same lines and such
it takes an hour and 5 min to do if you get good at it
but other than that it doesnt make u a hex god anyone can do it
there is an advantange to using hex to PMI no model corections needed
i want to try it with a CE map to see if i can inport it bitmaps and all 0.0 but idk
HAHAHAHAH UEHUAUHHAHUA XDDD OMG TYLER!!! THATS HILARIOUS!!!
you would prefer to waste 1 hour instead of PMIng something in max 6 minutes? (130 seconds is enough)
edit: double post =_=
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by Mac Hacker » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:53 am
TaxiService wrote:tyler777 wrote:i can do that in hex so can u if you change everything at each place to match the map its inported from same lines and such
it takes an hour and 5 min to do if you get good at it
but other than that it doesnt make u a hex god anyone can do it
there is an advantange to using hex to PMI no model corections needed
i want to try it with a CE map to see if i can inport it bitmaps and all 0.0 but idk
HAHAHAHAH UEHUAUHHAHUA XDDD OMG TYLER!!! THATS HILARIOUS!!!
you would prefer to waste 1 hour instead of PMIng something in max 6 minutes? (130 seconds is enough)
edit: double post =_=
lol yeah but u can PMI multiple items in that period to without rebuilding or model corection witch means that a limit to rebuilding will not be there becuase its not rebuilt so you can rebuild again if you suddenly deside to add something
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by TaxiService » Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:07 pm
tyler777 wrote:lol yeah but u can PMI multiple items in that period to without rebuilding or model corection witch means that a limit to rebuilding will not be there becuase its not rebuilt so you can rebuild again if you suddenly deside to add something
you can do it with HHK.
i'm doing it from ever.
maybe i can say that rebuliding is useless. <_<
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by G[v]N » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:50 pm
KoRnDog
why would u import stuff using hex edit. the other apps make it so much easier. and dont say thats nooby because apps are supposedto make things easier. idk why u all frown upon them while hex edit is worshipped like some idol if hexiness.
Hexedit is regarded as skill. He says that Hex Gods
CAN import stuff using hex, not will. Obviously they use apps because it is easier, unless they wanted to show off for no reason..
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by KoRnDoG » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:54 pm
hex edit would help with some things... but todays modding apps got most things covered. theres almost no need to use hex edit except for the things that apps cant do. wich are few. modders now days only need a basic understanding of hex edit.
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by Mac Hacker » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:18 pm
well where would we be without hex? eschaton is a gui that edits a maps hex in binary stream
so yeah thats how apps work they edit some of the hex for you
and importing in hex is actually the best way to import becuase of the versatility that you do not have to corect bitmaps or models aswell as if you PMI from a CE map you inport the skin intop the map thus its internal
well anyways there is no such thing as a hex god if there was it would be deox
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by Altimit01 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:45 pm
eschaton is a gui that edits a maps hex in binary stream
for now.
as for the rest
I'll believe it when I see it. As far as I know, no one has done PMI via hex since the days of xbox editing (circa 2002 or earlier) and that's only guessing as I've yet to see documented importation (it may not have ever been done until tools came out). The only time you wouldn't have to deal with correcting bitmaps is because you didn't import certain bitmap metas knowing they were already in the mapfile. As for models, I highly doubt you know where to put them, how to separate the verts from the inds and how to calculate the offset to the raw data.
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by Moxus » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:33 am
tyler777 wrote:lol yeah but u can PMI multiple items in that period to without rebuilding or model corection witch means that a limit to rebuilding will not be there becuase its not rebuilt so you can rebuild again if you suddenly deside to add something
I can import loads of things without having to rebuild through HHK.
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by Eclipse » Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:49 am
We all can whats the big deal?
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by Moxus » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:27 am
eclipse wrote:We all can whats the big deal?
Exactly the point.
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by Kayar » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:39 pm
Moxus wrote:eclipse wrote:We all can whats the big deal?
Exactly the point.
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Uhm, well...
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by Shodos » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:43 pm
Kayar wrote:Moxus wrote:eclipse wrote:We all can whats the big deal?
Exactly the point.
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Uhm, well...
exactly
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by TaxiService » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:30 pm
Gra[V]33N wrote:How d'you all like my new sigs?
why do you use
that forerunner symbols?
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