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Post by sw3D » Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:01 am

and is that why i have to pay 50 bucks for premium? just to avoid TKs and shit?
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Post by theBlack » Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:07 am

sTryker wrote:and is that why i have to pay 50 bucks for premium? just to avoid TKs and shit?
you have to pay for the game, so if you want all the options to keep the fodder out, then yes you have to pay for the gameranger premium options.

If you dont feel you need those options dont pay, simple, don't moan about it.
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Post by sw3D » Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:44 pm

see what i mean? u guys are taking this too far

and wtf said i was moaning about it, im just telling you that shit for your own good, you are trying too hard and wasting you own damn time
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Post by theBlack » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:06 pm

What's wrong with limiting a game only to include gamers that are in it for the game. not TK's or people that are generally abusive to other gamers.
I purchased Call Of Duty, Played it a few times online and ended up getting so angry because of the TK's, all they did was re-spawn and kill their own team mates is was chaos, these little Shits ruined some good games for me, and the sooner we have options to ban them from ALL online game servers the better.

I don't think we are taking it to far, we pay money for premium membership to Gameranger and we purchase Games that are expensive, that should give us the right to exclude bad elements from servers.
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Post by el_presidente » Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:54 pm

sTryker wrote:im just telling you that shit for your own good
well, i'm glad you can see it's "shit" -- and besides, we wouldn't want you to "waste time" trying to "help" us, sooo . . . .
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Post by el_presidente » Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:11 pm

sTryker wrote:So what if people are in clans, does it not give us the right to play RvS coop?

Plus, i've witness quite a few times myself. Someone TKs another person BY ACCIDENT and the host immediately kicks that player out, considering him as an 'offender'. If people TK extensively, then they earn the right to be banned... Well unless it seems very obvious he is TKing on purpose, i think if someone TKs once or twice i guess they can stay and play. You don't have to have a referee everytime with a M60 to guard the damn game, as black said

And the JOHNDOE matter: Sure RvS has been out for.. iduno.. quite a while. But doesn't mean people will stop buying the game. There are new accounts made on Gameranger every week. But don't kick someone cuz he doesn't know how to change name. I agree that u can kick him when he doesn't say nething and shit.. :/ but give him a few moments.. make him change name in options or console :P u get nothing from him, play one round.. study him (that means point ur gun at him right off the start, any sudden movements? BAM).
a couple points:

1. what i am really thinking of -- tho i didn't state it clearly -- is making peeps lose their clan moniker at the door -- you could still play as long as you rename yourself -- sorta a "sacrifice" to prove your bona fides and make you "own" the game, too -- anyone who did so would imo be less likely to tk indiscriminately, and if they did -- well, theyd be instantly bannEd!

2. bans are not forever. i empty my ban list every few weeks usually. some times some "time off" is good for everyone.

3. "instantly kicked for accidental tk" -- well, it's not the end of the world. again, if someone accidentally engages in 2 stupid tks in a row, perhaps they need some time off. the players surely deserve his time off. and it's not a ban if it's accidental, it's just "see you later after you get your shit together."

4. john doe -- any newbie can figger this out -- it's a goddam gui option -- if they are too stupid to figger that out, perhaps they should not play be playing until they are competent enough to do so. but in most cases, it's not naivete, it's laziness or avarice -- no name after being asked by the next round is a kick.

5. again on the accidental tk -- how often do you see these "pros" start claiming "lag" or "line of fire" -- be responsible -- everyone deals with these issues but the honorable person will just say "sorry" and leave it at that -- the excuse-maker is in my experience much more likely to tk again. personally, i suicide instantly if i do an accidental tk and apologize in full. it's called respecting the other person.

what you don't see is that people who do 2 accidental stupid tks or 1 intentional tk ruin the entire flow of a session. perhaps you do not care. hahaha. it's funny. it's no big deal. i do care. it's bad form. it sets the wrong tone. good sessions do not come around that often. impatient kiddies can kill one or stop one from ever coming into being. if people do not want to respect others they are free to play on a server other than mine.
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Post by tim_leary » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:06 pm

LOL this may all be moot I have seen some what I shall now call "TK servers" , with room descriptions that say " bullshit = kick".

Now that's purrfect.
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Post by tim_leary » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:22 pm

Well I guess it's time to start posting server rules. More on this later.

If you Tk someone by accident and blame in on something besides your own damn self, STFU cuz you are wasting your breath. Be a man, say you're sorry, don't offer excuses, and STFU. There' is no argument. You pulled the trigger. End-Of-Story. Trying to be argumentitive about this just makes the ban longer...

If I regularly see people TK others (classic when they do their own clan memebers), they get a vacation from my server.

Premium? I pretty much consider it only for the VOX integration. I could care less about Scott Kevill's other uses for it. Vox is useful and makes the game more interesting.

Clan monikers. Hmmm. Just because someone can change their name doesn't work, I don't think, because people that you don't want on your sever WILL change their name to get in.
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Post by Vir2L™ » Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:00 pm

sTryker wrote:see what i mean? u guys are taking this too far

and wtf said i was moaning about it, im just telling you that shit for your own good, you are trying too hard and wasting you own damn time
I dont see how any of us are taking it to far or tryin to hard... this is just a discussion isn't it? Are we not allowed to talk about this kinda stuff Stryker? We ARE probably wasting our time, but so are you. lol. cheese and rice man

Im all for some of the GameRanger ideas, but the possibility of some of them happening is probably pretty slim to none. Maybe thats the point Stryker is trying to get across, i dunno.

and about the TK's .... Accidental TK's are forgotten within minutes as long as there is an apology. If an apology isnt given then i expect the player to get kicked from the server. They dont respect other players than they dont get any from me.

I'm all for weeding out the geeblers. The better the gaming experience the happier I am in general. And I'm sure it would keep most of us from posting about jerky's that ruin the game for some of us too. =P
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Post by theBlack » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:04 am

Im a bit new to RVS,just been playing seriously for a few months, so I am not sure of all the settings, ie. mods ect.
I noticed in some games, if you are TK'ed, an option window come up and you get to punish the Tk'er.

Is this a default RVS setting, or a Mod.

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Post by Vir2L™ » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:55 am

theBlack wrote:Im a bit new to RVS,just been playing seriously for a few months, so I am not sure of all the settings, ie. mods ect.
I noticed in some games, if you are TK'ed, an option window come up and you get to punish the Tk'er.

Is this a default RVS setting, or a Mod.

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I believe the TK penalty is only available in ADV game mode........

There is an option to turn friendly fire off, but that takes some of the realism, some of us like, right out of the game.
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Post by Vir2L™ » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:50 pm

I have now witnessed ToP|SOT|mv.Equinox intentionally TK someone for the third time now. His reasoning for TKing "the victim" was because he was blocked by "the victim" (because he TK's).

-ToP- & SOT are a bunch of wankers if they allow this kind of conduct in there clans.

This isnt what gaming is about folks. If you are butthurt that someone blocked you, its your own fault!!

Thats my .02¢, go buy a clue.
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Post by tim_leary » Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:35 pm

One of their clan leaders told me in a game the other day that I was being hunted down for the same reason ( "he's pissed as hell at you, lol "). Apprently he's been TK'ing people that weren't me, but he *thought* they were me. ToP Geschlagen is his handle. NCR renegade deliberately hit me in the head with a nade at the garage map spawn. I sidestepped it, ran, then perforated him for trying it. People get all upset when you ban them for being a sloppy player or for being an ass-sniffing smoke and location stealer. But tk'ing is only a minor part of the equation there's all sorts of reasons besides deliberate (or even countless "accidental" tks) to warrant a vacation from Timmah's server.
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Re: TK's

Post by tim_leary » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:27 am

el_presidente wrote:number one zone for offenders is d_pict's room.

here are some known offenders:

127974 - Bong 420 aka Mr.Bong
159478 - [¿]-FSB-[¿]
127170 - Gensam
150855 - the_dude (uses illegal text forum doesnt support)
66769 - KeyserSoze
148998 - TOP|SOT|Mv.Equinox (uses illegal text forum doesnt support)

Esp. Equinox he gets to walk the plank.

Gensam is ok around me.

D_pict as clan leader of SOT TOP is a cool dude so go figure re: his team mates.
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Post by tim_leary » Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:30 am

-MºViN> wrote:I have now witnessed ToP|SOT|mv.Equinox intentionally TK someone for the third time now. His reasoning for TKing "the victim" was because he was blocked by "the victim" (because he TK's).

-ToP- & SOT are a bunch of wankers if they allow this kind of conduct in there clans.

This isnt what gaming is about folks. If you are butthurt that someone blocked you, its your own fault!!

Thats my .02¢, go buy a clue.
Equinox got the boot off my server today and he's not allowed back. If you have a problem with the decision of the host fine, take it off line. And to the person I'm thinking about here, feel free to PM me.
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