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Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:31 pm
by Repulse
Why does harbinger take so long to convert a CE map and i have 3gb of ram on my computer and i still don't understand some of the maps have a tiny BSP and alot of tagspace left and it takes like 400-500 seconds to convert mosty 675 seconds O: please help me.
(yes i know this is a mac forum
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Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:38 pm
by seabeast
Phail. Just use the Mac one. Or get a Mac and use the Mac one. Or just get a Mac....
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:46 pm
by Repulse
I have a mac and a PC but i want to convert a CE map to a PC map. One question is it possible to convert a CE map to a PC map on a mac?
Please just help me instead of telling me to get a mac
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:55 pm
by Modzy
Molecular Modd3r wrote:I have a mac and a PC but i want to convert a CE map to a PC map. One question is it possible to convert a CE map to a PC map on a mac?
Please just help me instead of telling me to get a mac
Yes, the maps are the same.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:56 pm
by Repulse
So wait do i need to have the halo PC maps on the mac to convert a CE map to PC or just use halo for mac maps??? will the PC maps work for converting a CE map on a mac and still be playable if i transfer it to my PC using a flashdrive?
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:58 pm
by Modzy
Modzy wrote:Yes, the maps are the same.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:01 pm
by Repulse
Okay thankyou Modzy. One last thing how much ram should my mac have to convert a medium sized map in less than 120 seconds?
EDIT: now my harbinger everytime i try to convert a map it says the Exception out of bounds this application must shut down now. Why is this happening??
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:41 pm
by seabeast
NilObjectException? That happens when the headers are messed up. I think. Anyway, it should be the same. If it doesn't work from the PC to the Mac, save it in the Mac HHK and it should work. Maybe for Mac to PC save it in PC HHK?
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:44 pm
by Repulse
I was talking about converting a CE map on a mac and then put the converted CE map on my flashdrive and put converted map on my PC then make it playable. but thanks for the tip on how to convert a Mac mod to a PC mod lol.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:01 pm
by Zanghfei
CE can convert to mac
CE can convert to pc
CE can play by Halo custom edition
PC cannot convert to mac ( 50 % not sure or crash )
Mac cannot convert to pc ( 50 % not sure or crash )
Leader Mod ( Pc ) can play only at Pc
BUT
Minor mod can play by mac or pc
Leader mod ( mac ) can play only at mac
BUt
Minor mod can play by mac or pc
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:56 pm
by Smythe
Um Wtf are you talking about
zanghfei wrote:
CE can convert to mac (correct)
CE can convert to pc (correct(
CE can play by Halo custom edition (No shit)
PC cannot convert to mac ( 50 % not sure or crash )(because you dont need to they work anyway)
Mac cannot convert to pc ( 50 % not sure or crash )(because you dont need to they work anyway)
(this next bit doesn't make any sense if someone can decipher it please do)
Leader Mod ( Pc ) can play only at Pc
BUT
Minor mod can play by mac or pc
Leader mod ( mac ) can play only at mac
BUt
Minor mod can play by mac or pc
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:05 pm
by Zanghfei
Leader mod ( PC ) mean the best mod ever example
minor mod mean the normal mod is like they using eachaton etc.
Same like Mac.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:06 pm
by seabeast
Um. Minor mods can be played on both, but bigger and better mods tend not to. E.g. Cryosis needed porting, FTW needed porting all that stuff.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:42 am
by Smythe
oh i get you now
it would have made sense like this
what would have made sense if this is what zanghfei wrote:
a great Mod like FTW ( Pc ) can play only on a Pc without porting it to mac
BUT
a not so good mod like a projectile swap map can play on mac or pc
a great mod for mac like crossing can play only on a mac
BUt
Minor mod like proj swapping can play on mac or pc.
Re: Why does harbinger for halo PC take so long to convert a ...
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:31 pm
by Altimit01
I cannot honestly give an estimate on how much computer power you'd need to run Harbinger effectively. I can say it would be a very good idea to have enough RAM to handle normal operation and have enough left over that is in excess of the file size of your target map. I highly recommend multi-core CPUs as Harbinger runs primarily on a second thread and depending on your hardware may in fact run slower because of it (note: this is necessary to avoid the ui completely locking up). Your time estimate is about on par with what other people have reported. Keep in mind that Harbinger is doing a partial rebuild so the run time of it's conversions should be compared to HMT and Eschaton 0.7 rebuilding.
In general PC and Mac maps are identical with very minor differences. A Harbinger conversion has no difference between the PC and Mac versions. I have found that many mods that do not work for Macs on the 1.5.X build of Halo do work on the 2.0 build (UB).